Tuesday, 27 October 2009

A familiar theme

I refer honourable readers to blogs I have made earlier.... but here's an update on the good old Save the Cows, Save the Planet argument - front page of the Times no less. I'd love to know if anyone out there actually has... (given up meat to save the planet I mean).

And here's a link to the debate I called on it earlier this year, if anyone's interested.

18 comments:

Remember Remember said...

I think vegans produce more methane than cattle.

Steven_L said...

Did you see this study by a couple of aussie academics on the carbon footprint of dogs?

I think upper-middle class vegan barristers like you should be pushing much, much harder for dog taxes and beef bans.

While you're at it please, please, please call for a ban on fishng.

Kerry said...

Upper-middle class vegan barristers like me? One out of three, go to the bottom of the class!

Bristol Dave said...

Two out of three Kerry; you shop at Habitat.

Kerry said...

In whose world is Habitat upper-middle class?! In fact I was assembling a bedside cabinet on Saturday night (£19.99 off Ebay) and the thought occurred to me... has David Cameron ever self-assembled any furniture? Or George Osborne or Boris Johnson? I suspect not.

Bristol Dave said...

Well, depends on if you think an average price of £1000 for a double bed frame is reasonable or not (from checking their website). I guess it's not upper class if the tax payer pays for it.

I'm sure you can find many people on your side of the house that haven't assembled any furniture either, so let's try not to bring party politics into this ;)

The Boiling Frog said...

has David Cameron ever self-assembled any furniture?

The same question could be asked of Gordon Brown. Imagine if he tried self assembly.

One night he disappears, with a mysterious large box, into the spare room, from which subsequently emanates lots of hammering, noise and light.

On and on for days he’s cooped up; “Mummy? Why’s Daddy been in the spare room for such a long time?” Eventually, the door swings open and Gordon stands smiling, as he reveals a brand new shinning MFI wardrobe.

“It’s the best placed wardrobe in the world with which to store your clothes” he says …as CRASH! It collapses.

“Hmm I think I must have had a screw lose!”

Kerry said...

Class and wealth are not the same thing. And Gordon apparently used to have garden furniture in his dining room in Kirkaldy until Sarah took him in hand!

Kerry said...

Class and wealth are not the same thing. And Gordon apparently used to have garden furniture in his dining room in Kirkaldy until Sarah took him in hand!

Bristol Dave said...

Class and wealth are not the same thing.

Maybe not, but I still maintain that Habitat is very much upper-middle class. If not just the prices (which, like it or not, is a rather reliable indicator) then the products.

I expect in your heart of hearts you know this, but you're just terrified of being labelled as a champagne socialist.

Kerry said...

Well I think you're totally wrong, and I find it quite offensive.

Remember Remember said...

Better think up another thought-crime law quick.

Bristol Dave said...

Well I think you're totally wrong, and I find it quite offensive.

You find it offensive that I think that Habitat is decidedly upper-middle class? On what grounds? Take a look at their prices, for goodness sake. They're no Ikea (despite being owned by the same parent company) - how many average middle class families do you think can justify spending £1365 on a dining table and 4 chairs? Class and wealth may not be the same thing, but they're very closely linked. Upper class people generally have lots of it, lower...sorry..."working" class people, generally don't. Thus it follows that there's no way that working class, or even typical middle-class people can justify the costs of Habitat furniture, especially in the current climate. Therefore, in my opinion, Habitat is pretty much solely the domain of the upper-middle class.

But I guess that goes against your Labour roots, right? I guess "Champagne Socialist" touched a nerve. Sorry about that.

Kerry said...

I find it offensive that you're trying to label me when you obviously know nothing about my family background, and in a way which negates most of my life experiences. And you obviously don't understand the first thing about class differences either -
I know a single mum in a council flat who bought a £1000+ sofa on HP, and would never have bought anything second hand (ever heard of the aspirational working classes? seen the size of some of the TVs in council homes in Bristol?) and some resolutely middle class people who get all their stuff through freecycle or in vintage/ secondhand shops.

You'll be telling me David Beckham, Jordan and Ronnie O'Sullivan are royalty next.

The Boiling Frog said...

I find it offensive that you're trying to label me when you obviously know nothing about my family background, and in a way which negates most of my life experiences.

Unlike you who didn't try to label members of the Tory party, in your earlier comment, by their family background. Oh wait you did...

Kerry said...

You've completely missed my point. We know Osborne, Cameron and Johnson's family background, it's been well-documented. You know virtually nothing about mine.

Bristol Dave said...

So working class people shop at Habitat now? Give over.

Steven_L said...

Well I apologise for my lazy sterotyping of senior labour MP's as 'upper middle class barristers' I didn't mean to offend you Kerry.