tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post8216434194837515523..comments2024-03-02T02:56:21.007+00:00Comments on ......SHOT BY BOTH SIDES: More on animal testingKerryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02377996092374137641noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-55322437418506035162008-12-29T02:05:00.000+00:002008-12-29T02:05:00.000+00:00I'm not a "Libertarian". My principles are based s...I'm not a "Libertarian". My principles are based solely on ethics and common sense, not divided loyalties to any party. Any similarity of mine to any party's opinions would be purely coincidental.<BR/><BR/>As for this subject: You may soon have to eat what's left on the shelves, all the more for us if the lot of you skip meat. <BR/>(Do any of you even grow any vegetables or do you just eat them?)Remember Rememberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15822841376973577337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-32060825366569888802008-12-28T15:59:00.000+00:002008-12-28T15:59:00.000+00:00And here's the response to this particular post wh...And here's the response to this particular post which I was emailed by Animals Count. <BR/><BR/>"My comment regarding scientific arguments was based on the fact that you had made no reference to peer-reviewed scientific papers that describe the efficacy of animal research. As I said before, most scientists who claim animal use is necessary, base their opinion on anecdotes and selective examples. I agree, many anti-vivisection activists have done the same to support their argument. What is therefore needed are systematic reviews that look at a range of issues and a large, randomly selected sample of published papers. I have asked Andrew Knight, Animals Count President, veterinarian, and author of numerous peer-reviewed scientific papers to say a few more words about this.<BR/><BR/>You also seem to make a distinction between on one hand ‘campaigners’, and on the other hand ‘researchers’. Many campaigners these days, including many in leading anti-vivisection organisations, have had scientific training, and some even hold PhDs. They are just as capable, if not more so compared to ‘animal researchers,’ to critically assess the utility of animal experiments. <BR/><BR/> <BR/>As a politician it is necessary to hear two sides of the story and to balance information, however, at the end of the day, ethics play an important part of everyone’s life, including that of politicians. If scientists or politicians think that animal use in research, testing and education is justified because it is effective only occasionally, or at best, some of the time, I would find that a very poor ethical decision, especially in a time where resources for scientific research are scarce. We have to move away from old practices and embrace new scientific methods that are truly humane, effective and predictive (best practice); many of these non-animal methods already exist and are being used.<BR/><BR/>The animal protection movement is united in its desire for an independent review, and we are very disappointed that Labour hasn't followed through on this without an explanation. If the government had kept its 1997 manifesto promise, then all the issues around HLS and SHAC might not even have happened. Those animal protectionists who voted Labour (instead of Green for example) deserve a full explanation. If Lord Sainsbury and the Research Defense Society are confident that animal experiments work, they should welcome a review of the subject, and it would lay a lot of confusion and conflict to rest once and for all. <BR/><BR/>I do hope you will champion the 3Rs more, and, replacement methods in particular.<BR/><BR/><BR/>With kind regards,<BR/><BR/>Jasmijn de Boo, BSc (Hons), MSc, DipEd<BR/>Chair, Animals CountKerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377996092374137641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-82653031276369096952008-12-28T15:58:00.000+00:002008-12-28T15:58:00.000+00:00Funny, I feel the same way about libertarians...Funny, I feel the same way about libertarians...Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377996092374137641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-87212084465418902462008-12-28T13:02:00.000+00:002008-12-28T13:02:00.000+00:00It's quite tempting to test things on Vegans...It's quite tempting to test things on Vegans...Remember Rememberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15822841376973577337noreply@blogger.com