tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post3481387683390931819..comments2024-03-02T02:56:21.007+00:00Comments on ......SHOT BY BOTH SIDES: The homecoming paradeKerryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02377996092374137641noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-26508010812417777552009-03-11T23:40:00.000+00:002009-03-11T23:40:00.000+00:00This is what really happened at Luton.http://www.y...This is what really happened at Luton.<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ygCc9qlWM&eurlDaveAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07249090980650806030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-69304997197437362332009-03-11T15:38:00.000+00:002009-03-11T15:38:00.000+00:00CaptainFun can I point out in "going over to point...CaptainFun can I point out in "going over to point out the error of their ways" I meant engage them in debate, I did not infer violence. <BR/><BR/>I would suspect that they are not the type of people who handle dissent well. <BR/><BR/>I suppose on a general point the Oklahoma bombing in 1995 where 168 people died, the guilty people were Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. They are white Christians. Although they never attacked Muslims, if Muslims wanted criticise them with the "all Christian" tar brush, I would be the first to say not in my name and would like to see these people burn in hell. Also I would add I am deeply ashamed of white Christians with beer bellies and often England tattoos who go abroad, drink excessively and are violent and racist towards other foreigners. They are scum too.<BR/><BR/>However the silence from much of the Muslim community is deafening. I am happy to admit to my cultural failings, but it does not seem to be a reciprocal arrangement.DaveAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07249090980650806030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-3949547132581187452009-03-11T11:08:00.000+00:002009-03-11T11:08:00.000+00:00There's a later video of this http://tinyurl.com/b...There's a later video of this http://tinyurl.com/bfzsqg which is somewhat more disturbing. <BR/><BR/>Sadiq Khan MP for Tooting is talking of hate filled thugs (via Twitter) - I'm guessing he means the supposedly "muslim" protesters, but it strikes me that the chanting white skinheads in the crowd are the hate filled thugs I'm more worried about. He does say he's just getting on top of the facts - which I am too.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Just to summarise my position - I respect the protesters right to do so, but feel that their protest is insensitive, and counter productive - and generates ill feeling and possibly hatred, if not by design (which is debatable), then certainly by default. I supported the war in Iraq, but would support the troops sent there even if I hadn't. It doesn't diminish my intolerance of racism.<BR/><BR/>Many of the people "spontaneously" reacting to their protest, with offensive chanting seemed curiously very prepared for this, and I can't help thinking that this was prearranged by an extreme right wing group. <BR/><BR/>If it seems odd that two apparently opposing groups can somehow contrive to stage an "incident" together, then look back a few years to when the SWP and NF seemed to miraculously turn up both at the same time in Towns and Cities across the country.<BR/><BR/>It looked like a throwback to the late 70's to me. Horrible !<BR/><BR/>Sadly, though I can't agree with DaveA's idea of "going over to point out the error of their ways" - I feel it is likely that this may indeed lead to increased support for the BNP - but remember 2% of sod all support is still sod all support !Captain Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035637733907073572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-83493878119230584872009-03-10T22:45:00.000+00:002009-03-10T22:45:00.000+00:00What seems clear is that it was a very small group...<I>What seems clear is that it was a very small group who protested against the soldiers' parade. (You can see from the photos accompanying the Mail article - it's a handful). They were of course entirely wrong to do so, and action should be taken against anyone whose behaviour could be seen as inflammatory or an incitement to hatred.</I><BR/><BR/>No. No. No. <BR/><BR/>I don't agree with them but you cannot deny them the right to express their view. And nor would Old Holborn.pagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01686435530689680270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-60066332926034548732009-03-10T21:58:00.000+00:002009-03-10T21:58:00.000+00:00Ironically I maybe not reverting to type here. I d...Ironically I maybe not reverting to type here. I do support the Muslims right to demonstrate here, free speech is not an a la carte menu you can pick and choose what you believe should allowed or not. However the banning of Geert Wilders was an utter disgrace, I have seen his film Fitna and I do not consider it offensive.<BR/><BR/>However I think the protest was insensitive and coming from these stone age barbarians (look at their wives) deeply hypocritical.<BR/><BR/>I think it is a tribute to our democracy that they were allowed to protest and were protected by the police.<BR/><BR/>I must say if a few of the boys had read them their fortune I would of understood. I certainly would of popped over to point out the error of their ways and have an exchange of ideas shall we say. <BR/><BR/>Another 2% in the polls for the BNP methinks.DaveAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07249090980650806030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-83862055086124060782009-03-10T21:55:00.000+00:002009-03-10T21:55:00.000+00:00My grandmother lives just up the road from there!My grandmother lives just up the road from there!Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377996092374137641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7647685282789008730.post-25891970166942867792009-03-10T21:53:00.000+00:002009-03-10T21:53:00.000+00:00Not sure what to make of this - local press seems ...Not sure what to make of this - local press seems to be down playing it. Hadn't heard a thing locally (in Leighton Buzzard).<BR/><BR/>Have had BNP leaflets through the door in last month for first time since I left W. Yorks - didn't spot who posted it, and haven't heard - so not sure if they're local or rent-a-mob. I'll try and find out.<BR/><BR/>Bury Park is wonderful - like a mini Southall - the 24 pharmacy there is often recommended by out of hours doctors, and patients chasing a precription at 11.00 at night often get quite a culture shockCaptain Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035637733907073572noreply@blogger.com